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that work is done or of course talking about fiscal cliff and done to three, four, five, sometimes two men talking in a room. so are you busy, working or still thinking you shouldn't be there maybe right now? >> we are not doing anything. we have to be here because if there is an agreement then we have the responsibility to vote on it but as far as what we're doing, this is the real exciting part of my day right now talking to you. >> sir, that's remarkable and i know you're joking and grinning but to american people waiting and wondering about their paycheck for the next day, two, week, month and to hear a member of congress to say we're here and doing nothing, that's hard to register. >> i agree with them. this is an indictment of congress that we have come to this state and where the function that most members of congress have is to simply be on hand so that in the event the negotiators reach agreement we can ratify or reject it but the fact to december 31st, new year's day and all of us should be with our families and america have some confidence that congress does have its back and we
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. but this is really important, this fiscal cliff is an important element in economic recovery, i hope we get it done. >> cross the aisle. republican congressman tom cole says a deal, any deal, will be hard to get done. >> there's not enough revenue in this package whatever the, quote, number is to fix the fiscal problems for the country. we're going to be in hand to hand warfare beginning in january with the continuing resolution, the debt ceiling and to try and deal with spending issues. >> continued uncertainty about tax and spending policies in 2013 could result in another recession. frustration seems to be the operative word tonight. if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used
government. host: can you take us through the next 48 hours on this debate on the fiscal cliff? what needs to happen? caller: ok. i say, the president should be willing to come up to $300,000, as far as tax increases. we need revenue. $400,000, some people make that. we need revenue. the only way to get it is to get it from people who actually have the money. there is no shame in helping our government. this is our government. the republicans need to understand that social security and medicare -- listen, those are so important. people are talking about i do not want children paying the bill. they will need social security as well. i want republicans to realize that they were elected to do the will of the people. not just the three% or whatever. they all need to understand that we are all affected by their thinking -- the president won the election, right? host: thank you for the call. i want to take you through some of the effects, if we do go off the fiscal cliff, if congress takes no action. this is the chart from the new york times of what will happen immediately and in the next couple
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the final day of fiscal cliff negotiations. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. >> do i wish that things were more orderly in washington? absolutely. >>> a tour bus crash on an icy oregon highway has killed nine people and injured 20 others. >>> today is december 31st. there's going to be a huge celebration in times square with everyone waiting for that crystal ball to drop. >> just to tell people hey, we were in the crowd in new york city on new year's eve. >>> a fatal plane crash in russia, the impact sending debris flying into oncoming traffic. >>> a scary slip on a frozen lake in the moun tapetains of southern california became a race to save a life. >>> and kim carkardashian is pregnant. >>> intercepted by rob jackson. redskins into the playoffs. rg3. maybe he can solve the fiscal cliff. >>> and all that matters. >> fireworks lit up sydney harbor, beautiful, as people mark the start of 2013. happy new year. >> on "cbs this morning." >>> chuck pagano back on the c
get done on the fiscal cliff. negotiations continuing behind closed doors to avoid some of the the most painful tax hikes and spending cuts in our nation's history. at least one republican congressman believes the president really wants the nation to go over the cliff, he so tax rates can rise. joining me now for his take on what's going on, live from the hill right now, house budget committee member, republican south carolina congressman mick mullvaney. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> harris: this would be quite an acting job if he really in the end wants us to go off the cliff. >> politicians are good actors. and not only the last couple months, but years, his omb, budget, the money necessary to run the programs he wanted and nancy pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of t
is it going to take to get congress to compromise and get a deal done on the fiscal cliff? from washington to all around the country americans are fed up. >> this whole thing is a national embarrassment, an embarrassment to the president, an embarrassment to both sides of the aisle and both the house and the senate. >> the election is over. you got your seats. you're re-elected. congratulations. you have a job. now work and do it. >> fiscally irresponsible decision trying to please everyone and you please no one at all. >> they've got to work together. >> they appear to be very self-centered. >> joining me now retired admiral and former democratic congressman joe sestak of pennsylvania and msnbc contributor and former bush/cheney senior adviser robert trainum. kelly o'donnell has just reported some of the latest information. we heard there was progress overnight and we understand vice president biden and republican leader mitch mcconnell exchanged phone calls until about midnight and their aides then continued to work and we've been reporting the various areas of progress including the fac
security will now go up to 6.2% of your salary. lawmakers have been so consumed by the fiscal cliff that it appears little was done to extend the 2010 payroll tax cuts, put in place by president obama two years ago in order to boost the economy. so what does it mean to your wallet? here is how much less you'll bring home if it expires. paychecks shrink $50 a month for those earning $30,000 a year. it shrinks $83 a month for those earning $50,000 a year. and $167 a month for those earning $100,000 a year. now, let's switch to the fiscal cliff. and what that is going to cost you. without a deal, you'll be paying lots more in tachxes. say you're single and working hard, you don't have kids, you earn $80,000 a year. if it does not go into effect, you'll pay an additional $3,000 more than what you already pay in taxes. the middle class families will get hit harder, two kids, both parents work. together you earn $80,000 a year. guess what, if there is no deal, you would owe $6,000 more in taxes next year. with so many variables, the question is how is wall street reacting? the stock marke
with fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> and also kicking the can down the road. but to your point, that is exactly what's going to happen, and whatever comes out of this deal and whenever the vote happens, this is really barely the start. >> reporter: correct. and i think that folks really need to brace themselves for what's going to be a very contentious next three to four months here on capitol hill. we had an election a few months ago, as you well know, chris. you covered it so much on top of the ball, and a lot of folks thought, okay, that election was going to answer a lot of questions. the president won, he won by 4 million votes. that is sort of the idea where the country is moving. when we do stories, we do those men on the street, and everyone sort of post-election has had this idea of it's time for shared sacrifice. we understand there's going to be some tough decisions made. we're going to have to give. that message has not resonated too much with house republicans specifically here in washington, d.c. they're negotiating very hard until the end because that has been their tactic in every si
the fiscal cliff. >> but we're getting something done. the average american family would see a tax increase of more than $3,400. preeti arla is joining us with more. >> reporter: top leaders seemed optimistic early on, but that seemed to shift, replaced by pessimism and still no deal with time running out. the clock is ticking, negotiations are ongoing. but at this point, democrats and republicans remain at odds. >> regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up, that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> reporter: president obama called for immediate action, but there was no vote in the senate. >> we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: minority leader mitch mcconnell called vice president biden in for help. biden is now said to be playing a direct role. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interes
, waiting for a fiscal cliff deal to get done, if one gets done at all. here with us now, daniel arvis. you could be a partner or president. i remember when you came on and you told us to embrace the fiscal cliff. are you still -- are you still wanting to embrace the fiscal cliff? >> yeah, i am. >> is that a good thing? >> i think we have to step back and think about what we're talking about here. we've gotten so caught up in the minutia and in the language that we've imposed on this whole debate that we forget the fiscal cliff is not some sort of disaster. it was put in place to solve a problem. or at least to create a basis for solving a problem. which is -- >> a basis. not solve a problem. >> which is to reduce the deficit. >> right. >> so the way these policies got into place, the so-called fiscal cliff policies, is congress set itself a sort of backstop and said, look, if we can't do it in a better way, we're going to have these across-the-board tax increases, and spending cuts through sequestration and that's going to allow us to cut the deficit. now what we've reduced to the debate t
the road and the democrats with spending. something has to be done. >> forget the fiscal cliff stuff and forget the debt ceiling stuff. the fact is that tomorrow morning, the tax rate, the social security tax rate on every american who works is going up. the medicare tax rate on high income people is going up. the tax on medical devices tomorrow morning, is going up. forget fiscal cliff. taxes are going up almost across the board. give me a quick comment on that. >> well, you know what? this has got to be the first time ever that it's december 31st and i have no idea what i'm going to be making tomorrow in terms of take home pay. you know, if you're a businessman, how do you decide what you're going to do with your business this year, you don't know how much you're going to be paying in taxes. if you're a consumer, how do you decide what you're spending your money on in the upcoming year. the level of uncertainty, i think, is unprecedented, and the fact that it's gone on this long is-- i mean, it's insane, it's really crazy. outrageous, that's what it is. kelly jane, just stay there
to avoid the most immediate economic impacts of the fiscal cliff. with 15 hours to go and counting, members of congress are disgusted and embarrassed. >> when the future of the country, you know, rests in the hands of 70 and 80-year-olds who have jet lag, it's probably not the best thing. >> something has done terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> the senate will reconvene at 11:00 this morning, but after a day of public gamesmanship and little obvious progress behind the scenes on sunday. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> mitch mcconnell called on vice president joe biden to be that dance partner. biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to g
for an 11th hour fiscal cliff showdown. just four days remain to got a deal done or massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in on tuesday. >>> the u.s. embassy clearing out of an african nation this morning. deteriorating security has forced the u.s. state department to temporarily success spend operations. the country's president has asked france and the u.s. to help stop rebel advances that thre threaten. >>> the jockeying has begun. massachusetts congressman ed markey throwing his hat into the ring. kerry's seat expected to become vacant if he goes on to become secretary of state and that is expected. a special election would be held early this summer. >> mom and pop shops across the country are bracing for a labor fight that could cripple their business. more on the key workers that could walk off the job. >>> plus, dr. mcdreamy to the rescue. patrick dempsey steps in to try and save hundreds of jobs. we'll tell you how. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin'
should have acted months ago to keep the u.s. economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class families from the tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues in which the two sides are still apart. negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the agreement would set the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts at $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families. i would set the tax rate for upper income people at 39.6%. the rate under president clinton. the states would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals and $10 million for a married couple. unemployment benefits would be extented a year, as with the medicare doc fix. it would permanently fix th
of avoiding this fiscal cliff, well, they become slimmer and slimmer and slimmer. >> except they better get something done. if they don't get something done, just about everybody will have a tax increase and see spending cut starting january 1st. what is preventing lawmakers from reaching a deal in representative jack kingston is a republican from georgia. he joins us now from d.c. congressman, good to see you. thank you for being with us. let's just discuss this for a minute. you know, taxes, whether taxes should go up or not is an interesting concept because some people are just religious about it, right? we talked to steven moore, grover norquist, pat toomey. some just think taxes should never go up on people. others think if you increase taxes it will hurt the economy. that may actually have some truth to it. but there's a tone deafness out there that has now superseded all of this, congressman, and it is -- we just heard mitch mcconnell, i don't know why people say things like this, but they make people wonder about legislators saying on the floor of the senate, i worked all day saturd
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with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of getting republican votes today? >> i don't think that will get through the house . the house was elected to
something done so we'll be on fiscal cliff watch on fast money. hopefully we'll have a deal to talk about. it's also about 2013 trades. predictions on the commodity front. top trade in the internet space. all of our traders will be prepared to give their top trades, as well. and of course we have broadcasting tonight in times square, heart of the biggest party in the universe. >> good luck getting home. >> really. >> have a great new year. >> thank you. you, too. >> we'll see you in 2013. here's what you missed if you're just tuning in. >>> welcome to hour three of "squawk on the street." here's what's happening so far. >> the real question is whether or not the president will weigh in and push the democrats in the senate to move forward with a bill today. if that happens, then i think that we can solve this current challenge. >> we ought to be concentrating on how to get government out of the way. get them off the back of small and medium sized businesses, even large corporations. let our economy grow. >> the economy is an incredible ability to self heal itself, but why want to take that
more than they are now. on the fiscal cliff they think this is going to find someone out. it gets done. the debt limit, if we go over it, we get downgraded again. it's unthinkable. it's not completely unthinkable that we could. markets tanks. interest race go way up. the economy is in the tank. it's a much scarier thing, and it would be better for the economy long run if they could get the debt limit as part of this deal. >> they're not going to do it. especially this congress. i want to put up a chart that is probably my favorite chart in all of chart-dom. this gets to the heart of how difficult it is to do this. republicans keep saying stop spending, right? when you get them to sort of be specific, they can't do it, and i think this is the reason why. >> basically it shows that two-thirds of the spending. >> 24% defense. health care spending, which is medicare, and health care for our veterans, and medicaid is 22%. education is only 4% of the budget, and it's the biggest thing. welfare doesn't even show up. it's in other. the question always for me is what is it that republicans want
to work now, businesses are a little more confident. but this is really important. this fiscal cliff san important element in economic recovery. i hope we can get it done. >> i think everybody out there agrees that they hope you get this done, a lot of frustration out there as you can imagine, i'm sure you hear it as well. thank you. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. back to you. >> dana bash, as always, appreciate that insight. >>> if the government does go over the fiscal cliff, you know what the rest of the world is going to feel it as well. we will tell you how and where, coming up. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. >>> all day i we have been following developments on the fiscal cliff talks. right now, senate leaders at an impasse over tax hikes and they are running out of time n just two days, those massive tax hikes and spending cuts will kick n so, let's go now to jessi
-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly de
spending, what do you do? >> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a seven year process. >> more than seven years. >> last time you were here you said we were half way through regardless of who wins in 2012. the next four years would not look much better than the past four years. >> we're going to have, i don't know if not very much better than the past four but we're not going to have fantastic growth. unemployment will take many more years to feel normal, so we have many years left in the recovery but hopefully in two or three years we feel like we're moving there and not at the starting point. >> let's talk about the global picture here. you have slow
of banished words this year. numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally dysfunctional right now and this is just probably the worst example of it. you know, i heard speaker boehner say a number of times that he doesn't believe in compromise and a lot of republicans say the same thing. they say let's find common ground and act on that. well, there just isn't much common ground. if, in fact, the numbers we're hearing about the senate deal, whether $450,000 threshold or $550,000, that is not a matter of principle. that's just a matter of policy and splitting hairs and differences of dollars. so i think unfortunately we've got a lot of people on the other side of
and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house and republicans on the hill are unclear what will happen. will it be a tarp moment like in 2008 when the tarp legislation got voted down and president bush was imploring the fell mrow republicans. it's a bitter pill to swallow. they voted it down and the markets plunged 5, 600, 700 points and everybody figured it out. what's going to happen with the markets, they're closed new years day, but when they open january 2nd, we have several consecutive days the markets have gone down not by a ton, but if they're plunging on january 2nd, that's what they're more nervous about. >> andrea. >> we've heard a lot of
as lawmakers work to avoid the fiscal cliff. but the clock is winding down. i don't know about you, but i'm so tired of talking about this. >> i feel the exact same way. >> just go over the cliff, get something done so we can stop talking about it. >>> a chilly end to 2012. it is cold out there. old man winter reminding us what time of year it is. a large part of the nation will ring in the new year with temperatures below freezing. >> we wouldn't know anything about that because it is hot as -- >> in the studio you mean. >> yes. >> maybe it's warm because i have my new slippers on that rob got me. >> that's not fair. >> you can put them in the microwave. >> really? >> yes. >>> but if warm, sunny skies are more your style, pasadena is the place to be. we'll take you behind the scenes of the annual rose parade to see how an army of volunteers build the majestic floats that smell so good. >> pasadena is more my style this time of year. >>> we begin with hillary clinton. the 65-year-old secretary of state is in a new york hospital suffering from a blood clot. >> a spokesman would not say where th
the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, beggers can't be choosers. i don't think we are going to get a grand bargain. i don't think we are going to get a big deal with long-term stuff a lot of people object to that, they will call that kicking the can down the road, you know what martin, they are absolutely right. once again, we will kick the can down the road, but that's what happens, when you back yourself into a corner, we did this with the debt ceiling, we did this with the government shutdown, the way we do business now, we should get used to it, that's how things are done t is the 11th hour we need an 11th hour deal. 11th hour deals are never particularly good. everybody is going to give something up. i just hope they all prepare to give something up and get a deal. it is not going to be pretty. i will be here the whole time, i will be here monday morning to see what markets do >> real
to you, melissa. >> for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations i am joined now by democratic strategist richard goodstein and republican strategist terry holt. thank you both for being here. >> sure. >> hi, melissa. >> terry, let's start with you. what do you think is going on behind closed doors right now on capitol hill? >> i think i'm still talking about the "meet the press" interview by the president this morning. you know, the american people elected president obama to lead, but he spent most of the morning today playing the blame game, and i say let's get the blame game over with and start talking about solutions for the american people because, you know, every -- every dollar you take, you can take every dollar from every rich person in america and still not balance this nation's budget. until we start talking about real spending cuts and structural reform to the entitlement programs, we're going to go broke. we'll go the way of greece, and the president hasn't moved off that. he's still playing politics with these issues, and frankly i think most of us now don't care who gets th
now a potential agreement to keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff. jessica yellen at the white house with some details. what are you learning? >> reporter: hi, suzanne. first of all, there is an emerging deal here, but it is still not done. it is in progress. there's a sense of sort of optimism that this will come to closu closure. what we know about this deal right now is that it would allow for earners at the very top to let their tax rates go back to clinton levels. so that is what was set to happen in the new year anyway. it only hits the very top earners. then the next level of the deal, households that earn $450,000 are the ones impacted by this. individuals who earn $400,000 a year are the ones who would see it go to clinton levels. the deal -- the emerging deal would also include as i understand an extension of unemployment benefits and a compromise on the estate tax that would allow a slight increase or something of an increase from where we are now but not an absolute jump to where it would be beginning tomorrow. now, if there were no deal. the big sticking point as d
mcconnell says about the situation. the subject is fiscal cliff update. colleagues. i appreciate your patience and know you are anxious to understand where we stand on the package. the tax piece is complete and done as of last evening at 1:45 a.m. i thought the entire deal was done. the white house called his morning asking that we also turn off the sequester. the white house has yet to the agree to the $100 beautiful various proposals i suggested but we are continuing to talk. in other words, they wanted that deal to be done. it's not. arthel: thank you so much. we are back in two minutes. arthel: a brand-new hour, we start with a fox news alert. there is just 10 hours left for law makers to resolve a debate that began with cutting our nation's debt and now threatens to raise taxes on nearly every american. brand-new hour of "america live." rick: these last-minute meetings, as we have been getting reports about significant progress. but with lawmakers still at odds over the particulars of the plan threatening to take shape. the possibility of a midnight tax hike is very real. >> repo
cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate to be had about at what level you maintain the tax cuts. so close to seeing all those tax cuts go away. a completely ridiculous congress inflicted wound on the economy that is very difficult to square with reality. certainly i understand that retroactively they can do a lot to restore a lot of the damaged, but we are so close to the purposes -- press the does, it makes no sense. cheryl: last and final question. i know this is tough to answer, but we have had some really good things happen. the recovery, calling it a recovery, the fed that has been more than generous and throwing money into the system. kendis ec
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